History: Slovenian Home Land

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Slovenian Home Land

for the Jordan, Kosak, Rogelj and Baznik families



Work in progress. Please pardon the dust and inaccuracy.

General Area

These four families all hail from Eastern Slovenia nestled between Zagreb (capital of Croatia) and Liblijuana (capital of Slovenia). Near Zagreb, which is down river, and the Croatian border to the south and west. The towns of our ancestors in Eastern Slovenia are only 10 km from the border with what is now Croatia and less than 100 km from Trieste and the Adriatic Sea.

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Map of South Eastern Slovenia
Šentjernej is the home of the Jordan and Baznik families and sits right in the middle between two capitals. The other towns of interest are within 20 to 30 km of this point. After the death of the parents, the kids were scattered to the grandmothers farm outside Šentjernej and to other relatives in Zagreb and Ljubljana. Eventually, four of the six Jordan girls were sent to America over a 6 year period but Karel and Marija settling near Trieste and Novo Mesto as their joint business grew.

Krško is the general area from where the Kosak clan came from we believe; just a little North East of Šentjernej and not more than 30 km away. Rogelj appears to have come from Novo Mesto. Šentjernej, Novo Mesto, and Krško are in the foothills of the southern Alps that comprise a majority of the Slovenian territory. The map shown can be right clicked to see it full screen.{DIV}

Most reading this will not have had the opportunity to visit the homeland; either on their own or with the relatives born there. So I will try to bring in photos, maps and the like from visits to the area by relatives and myself. Some, like Karel Jordan and his family, visited almost every year once they were allowed back in. Betty Jordan Kosak went about once a decade with various groups — sisters, her kids and the like. I was a grand kid with her on one of those trips.


Šentjernej

We had always been told by Elizabeth "Betty Kosak" Jordan that they were from Šentjernej. The town is fairly definable and was visited in the 1980's on the two trips with her kids. It is here where the family graves of Franciska Baznik and her mother Anna Turk are; as well now her son Karel, his wife Mela, and his son Eddo. Shown is a series of topological map shots zooming further into the town. Although Antonia Jordan declares her home town as Brevica, this name appears often associated with many villages in the area, including one within a kilometer of Šentjernej. It is not clear what she was referring to. In the close-in topo map of Šentjernej, one can see


Trebnje

For many years, we have heard of the large family house in Trebnje. Betty clearly remembered being there a year before she emigrated and took us there in 1985 to see. And the family photo from the 1940's of Karel and Maria's families clearly depicted it in the background as shown here. It is so large that it is clearly visible from the satellite photos as well as depicted in structure on the topological map of the area. Using the Geopedia.si site again, we show you the general topo map of the area depicting the edge of Trebnje the town and the house. We also then zoom in and show the satellite view with the various directions the photos below are shown. But according to Vlad Rus, the "castle" in Trebnje is simply a historical and well known destination for tourists and was never the home of Karel nor Frank and their families. They had the house in the smaller town xxxx nearby but in fact both families spent most of their time near Trieste and the coast in Rijeka. Ends up. Lilian's mother is from Trebnje. She says it has always been an apartment building. And that her father Karel put his brother Ignac and family up in there for a few years. Betty was stayed with them for a few months before she left for America as she tells us. Guess maybe it was while they were living there. As Betty left when she was 11, and was shuffled from her grandmothers house to different places, she could have easily been confused by this..

Sevni Name History

Some have asked how I came up with the name Sevni for my business venture of the '00s. The answer lies in this page as well.

Map_of_Southern_Gujurat Around 2002, it was hard to find unique, unused, simple names. The web name space had been scraped by many prospectors who registered names they thought others would find useful in hopes of making big money on their sale. So I was playing around with variations of words about things that I was doing — consulting to the government, startups, and venture finance community on technology, ideas and ventures. The reverse spelling of Invest, after dropping the letter T, gave a pronounceable name that had not yet been grabbed: Sevni. Doing searches on the web found the name really had no hits. Deeper searches found just two hits: Sevnica, a city in Eastern Slovenia, and Sevani in Gujurat — the state my wife was from. This seemed a good omen and justification for the name and so it came to be. The Slovenia map depicting this is shown earlier in this page while the India map is given here now.

Most interestingly Sevnica is now seen as one point of a diamond with the other three cities of my forefathers as the other points. And the Sevani village in India is actually better known as Sevni and very central to the area of Surat and Navsari where my wife's ancestors are from. Maybe we should have stuck with Sevni for this site instead of creating the new name MyCuz !

History

Information Version
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 14:45 EDT Randy Cleanup 20
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 14:42 EDT Randy Oops 19
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 14:40 EDT Randy Added Sentjernej detailed map 18
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 14:35 EDT Randy Added detail of Sentjernej 17
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 10:26 EDT Randy 16
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 10:26 EDT Randy 15
Mon 16 of Aug, 2021 10:24 EDT Randy Fix image to pop-up (thumbnail to full screen pop-up) 14
Sun 15 of Aug, 2021 16:20 EDT Randy Intermediate edit save 13
Sun 08 of Jul, 2018 23:31 EDT Randy Still trying to fix image standard as was used on H600 12
Sat 07 of Jul, 2018 11:00 EDT Randy 11
Mon 25 of Jun, 2018 20:32 EDT Randy Changed img's to use gallery; clarified Trebnje further. Need to add recent Kosak, Rogelj, Jordan and Baznik maps 10
Sun 21 of Jan, 2018 21:07 EST Randy Fix UTF8 conversion issues 9
Sun 08 of May, 2016 14:27 EDT Randy Cleaned up image reference; clarified Trebnje house 8
Tue 08 of Oct, 2013 17:10 EDT admin 7
Thu 04 of Feb, 2010 15:01 EST Randy Corrected Rogelj homeland; history of Trebnje house; have to upload photos and maps yet 6
Fri 31 of Jul, 2009 22:13 EDT Randy Second edit in progress 5
Fri 31 of Jul, 2009 20:07 EDT Randy In progress update 4
Fri 26 of Jun, 2009 19:06 EDT Randy minor cleanup 3
Fri 26 of Jun, 2009 18:50 EDT Randy Cleanup on Sevni to reflect map above 2
Fri 26 of Jun, 2009 18:47 EDT Randy Initial version; included Sevni history 1